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Joan with Donna and Doris, April, 1978
Joan talks about how she went to jail and her experiences while she was held there.Tags Bars, Buffalo Women, History, Lesbian and gay experience, Lesbian bars, Lesbian community--New York (State)--New York, Lesbian Herstory Archives, Lesbianism, Lesbianism--History, Lesbians--United States--History, Lesbians--United States--Identity, Lesbians--United States--Interviews, Madeline Davis, Oral history, Prisons -
Pat and DJ, November 11, 1986 (Tape 1)
Side A: Liz and Madeline ask Pat and DJ for feedback on a draft of "Boots of Leather, Slippers of Gold." Pat claims the book paints too rosy a picture of lesbian life, underplaying the prejudice most lesbians encountered in the 1940s and '50s. Both talk about the Buffalo bar scene in the 1940s and '50s: mentioned are Carousel, Bingo's, the Chesterfield, Ralph Martin's, the Mardi Gras, and the Midtown. The discussion shifts to relationships, faithfulness, and prostitutes.
Recording has loud feedback sounds and squeaks at the beginning.
Side B: Pat and DJ discuss bar denizens vs. lesbians who did not frequent bars and the "class" distinction there, and also the way non-butch lesbians looked down on butches. DJ describes how her long-term relationships were analogous to marriage, where she was the breadwinner and her partners were housewives who perhaps worked but did not "provide." Both discuss the fact that in the 1940s and '50s butches had the freedom to have affairs whereas femmes were expected to be faithful. This created an atmosphere of mistrust in which monogamous long-term relationships became very difficult.
Recording has loud squeaks at the beginning, hisses throughout, and cuts off abruptly at the end. -
Joan, September 11, 1978 (Tape 1)
Side A: Joan discusses the distinction between butch and femme lesbians, the differences between the white and black gay communities, the Buffalo lesbian bar scene, and coming out in the 1960s.
Side B: Joan discusses the class divisions in the lesbian community, the university gay scene, and her personal, professional, and romantic history.Tags Bars, Buffalo Women, Butch and femme, Colleges and universities, Coming out, Communities, Identity, Lesbian and gay experience, Lesbian bars, Lesbian community--New York (State)--New York, Lesbian Herstory Archives, Lesbianism, Lesbians--United States--History, Lesbians--United States--Identity, Lesbians--United States--Interviews, Madeline Davis, Oral history


