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Phil, January 9, 1980 (Tape 2)

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Title

Phil, January 9, 1980 (Tape 2)

Subject

Buffalo, N.Y. Lesbian bars
Butch Identity
Etiquette for lesbians
Lesbian Community--New York (State)
Lesbian couples
Lesbians--Sexual behavior
Lesbian--relationships
Lesbians--family--relationships
Lesbians--Identity
Roles--Butch and Femme
Bowling

Description

Side 3: Phil begins the interview by discussing the dynamics of living with her lover and husband under the same roof, as well her lack of shame or guilt in being gay. She then talks about guilt among other lesbians she knew. Related to this, she discusses reasons people were not public about their lesbian identity, including work and family commitments. She spends the majority of this side of the tape talking about her long term, intimate relationship with her best friend. She discusses the difference between butch and femme friends, as well as the distinct features of a close friend versus a lover.
Side 4: Phil continues to discuss the distinctions between friends and lovers. She talks about he various social groups she belonged to over the years, including a group that mostly had husbands and one that was more independent. Phil talks about lesbians having multiple partners, and how the community viewed butches and femmes who did so. Phil talks about lesbians in the Bowling Association, and the social events they put on. She then tells the story of a break-up and meeting a new lover, and the mythology surrounding butches making the first move.

Date Created

1980-1-9

Citation

Interviewee: Phil and Interviewer: Madeline D. Davis, “Phil, January 9, 1980 (Tape 2),” LHA Herstories: Audio/Visual Collections of the LHA, accessed May 26, 2020, http://herstories.prattinfoschool.nyc/omeka/document/SPW%20465.